Comments on: Version 0.7.0 released. http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/ Releases, announcements, and information regarding the FeedTree software. Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:25:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dan Sandler http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-68 Dan Sandler Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:12:47 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-68 What's happening is that FeedTree is generating feeds with the current "correct" MIME type for RSS feeds—that is, <tt>application/rss+xml</tt>—instead of whatever the server sent. I suspect you were able to get by before because your site was serving up RSS as <tt>text/xml</tt> or something else that Firefox isn't afraid of. In a perfect world, all feeds would be using a distinguishing MIME type; this would make the FeedTree proxy's work a lot easier. Right now, since there's no widespread adoption of the feed MIME types, it has to <i>attempt</i> to parse anything that even <i>smells</i> like XML. If the MIME were more widespread, FT could switch on the MIME alone and avoid wasting a lot of time parsing non-feed XML. Despite all that, Dave Winer is <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/crimson1/2004/05/06#a1519" rel="nofollow">saying</a> to use <tt>text/xml</tt> anyway, because he likes to be able to see XML in his browser, too. So I guess you're not alone. In a pinch, couldn't you just save the file to the desktop and take a look at it in your favorite text editor? The experience wouldn't be dramatically different than reading the raw XML in the browser. What’s happening is that FeedTree is generating feeds with the current “correct” MIME type for RSS feeds—that is, application/rss+xml—instead of whatever the server sent. I suspect you were able to get by before because your site was serving up RSS as text/xml or something else that Firefox isn’t afraid of.

In a perfect world, all feeds would be using a distinguishing MIME type; this would make the FeedTree proxy’s work a lot easier. Right now, since there’s no widespread adoption of the feed MIME types, it has to attempt to parse anything that even smells like XML. If the MIME were more widespread, FT could switch on the MIME alone and avoid wasting a lot of time parsing non-feed XML.

Despite all that, Dave Winer is saying to use text/xml anyway, because he likes to be able to see XML in his browser, too. So I guess you’re not alone.

In a pinch, couldn’t you just save the file to the desktop and take a look at it in your favorite text editor? The experience wouldn’t be dramatically different than reading the raw XML in the browser.

]]> By: Richard http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-67 Richard Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:00:31 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-67 Dan, when I would go to say, www.somesite.com/rssfeed.rss without using FeedTree as a proxy, Firefox would display the RSS feed like any other XML file but when I did that using FeedTree as a proxy, Firefox opened up the download window and asked me whether I wanted to save the feed as a file or view it with a program. Live Bookmarks were unaffected and worked the same as before, but I could not view feeds to see the XML markup, and having a website of my own, that is a problem for me. Dan, when I would go to say, http://www.somesite.com/rssfeed.rss without using FeedTree as a proxy, Firefox would display the RSS feed like any other XML file but when I did that using FeedTree as a proxy, Firefox opened up the download window and asked me whether I wanted to save the feed as a file or view it with a program. Live Bookmarks were unaffected and worked the same as before, but I could not view feeds to see the XML markup, and having a website of my own, that is a problem for me.

]]> By: Dan Sandler http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-66 Dan Sandler Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:01:18 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-66 Richard: How did Firefox display your feeds before? The FeedTree proxy tries to be good about setting the correct MIME type on feeds it serves up to the user. As for the service, I haven't yet had time to invest the engineering effort in wrapping the proxy as a Windows service. I'm aware of tools like <a href="http://jslwin.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">Java Service Launcher</a> and <a href="http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/" rel="nofollow">Java Service Wrapper</a>, just haven't gotten around to choosing one and integrating it. Richard: How did Firefox display your feeds before? The FeedTree proxy tries to be good about setting the correct MIME type on feeds it serves up to the user. As for the service, I haven’t yet had time to invest the engineering effort in wrapping the proxy as a Windows service. I’m aware of tools like Java Service Launcher and Java Service Wrapper, just haven’t gotten around to choosing one and integrating it.

]]> By: Richard http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-65 Richard Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:09:11 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-65 I had expected FeedTree to be RSS client (like Bit Torrent and other P2P stuff). I am noticing a bug though. Whenever I try to directly view an RSS feed in Firefox it tries to download it rather than display it like it used to do. By the way, is it possible to run FeedTree as a service on Windows XP? As nice as FeedTree is for RSS, I do not want to have to navigate to the .exe file and run it everytime I want to use Firefox, and it is using up precious task bar real estate running as a windows application. I had expected FeedTree to be RSS client (like Bit Torrent and other P2P stuff). I am noticing a bug though. Whenever I try to directly view an RSS feed in Firefox it tries to download it rather than display it like it used to do.

By the way, is it possible to run FeedTree as a service on Windows XP? As nice as FeedTree is for RSS, I do not want to have to navigate to the .exe file and run it everytime I want to use Firefox, and it is using up precious task bar real estate running as a windows application.

]]> By: Mashable.com/journal http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-64 Mashable.com/journal Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:07:38 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-64 <strong>FeedTree Gets Slashdotted</strong> Feedtree, the P2P feed updating service, just got Slashdotted. The service is still a bit too geeky to be a consumer play, but I’m interested in everything that’s collaborative and/or P2P. ... FeedTree Gets Slashdotted

Feedtree, the P2P feed updating service, just got Slashdotted. The service is still a bit too geeky to be a consumer play, but I’m interested in everything that’s collaborative and/or P2P.
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]]> By: Dan Sandler http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-63 Dan Sandler Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:41:09 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-63 Actually, no plugin is required. Install the FeedTree client proxy, and then configure Firefox to use your proxy for its browsing. All Live Bookmark traffic should now be FeedTree-enabled. (I don't have setup instructions handy, but it should be very similar to Thunderbird, which we already have some <a href="http://trac.feedtree.net/project/wiki/ProxySetup/Thunderbird" rel="nofollow">documentation</a> for.) Actually, no plugin is required. Install the FeedTree client proxy, and then configure Firefox to use your proxy for its browsing. All Live Bookmark traffic should now be FeedTree-enabled. (I don’t have setup instructions handy, but it should be very similar to Thunderbird, which we already have some documentation for.)

]]> By: Richard http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-62 Richard Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:31:17 +0000 http://feedtree.net/blog/2006/02/20/version-070/#comment-62 I use Firefox's livebook marks to manage all of my feeds. Please make a Firefox extension that would have Live Bookmarks update via FeedTree. I use Firefox’s livebook marks to manage all of my feeds. Please make a Firefox extension that would have Live Bookmarks update via FeedTree.

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